{"id":3074,"date":"2015-11-04T11:30:59","date_gmt":"2015-11-04T15:30:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/adamchandler.beer\/?p=3074"},"modified":"2015-11-04T11:30:59","modified_gmt":"2015-11-04T15:30:59","slug":"beer-news-what-beer-costs-why-we-need-more-flexibility-in-the-market","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/adamchandler.me\/blog\/2015\/11\/04\/beer-news-what-beer-costs-why-we-need-more-flexibility-in-the-market\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2605 Beer News: &#8220;What Beer Costs&#8221; \u2014 Why we need more flexibility in the market"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class='__iawmlf-post-loop-links' style='display:none;' data-iawmlf-post-links='[{&quot;id&quot;:5772,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/goodbeerhunting.com\\\/blog\\\/2015\\\/9\\\/30\\\/critical-drinking-what-beer-costs-why-we-need-more-flexibility-in-the-market&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20251104160916\\\/https:\\\/\\\/www.goodbeerhunting.com\\\/blog\\\/2015\\\/9\\\/30\\\/critical-drinking-what-beer-costs-why-we-need-more-flexibility-in-the-market&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/www.goodbeerhunting.com\\\/blog\\\/2015\\\/9\\\/30\\\/critical-drinking-what-beer-costs-why-we-need-more-flexibility-in-the-market&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-01-06 14:27:40&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-01-21 11:54:20&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-02-07 14:53:47&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-31 16:58:37&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-04 18:46:08&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-08 21:28:15&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-08 21:28:15&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;}]'><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/goodbeerhunting.com\/blog\/2015\/9\/30\/critical-drinking-what-beer-costs-why-we-need-more-flexibility-in-the-market\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">via Good Beer Hunting<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><em>$60 for a beer might not be in your budget. Anyone would be perfectly sane to weigh their options depending on their personal priorities. But the chatter that I see, from consumers and retailers alike, who are associating a $60 beer with some sort of money-grab and exploitation, are severely hindered by their perception of what \u201cbeer\u201d costs and ignorance of the many factors at play outside of the direct costs of ingredients. Commodity pricing has no place in a beer of this sort. It\u2019s a once-and-done beer that challenges even the most experienced and efficient brewers in the creation of a viable product for the market. Without the 35-year-old Heaven Hill barrels, or the aging process, or the custom blown glass bottles, or the 20+ years of continuous experience making one of the best imperial bourbon barrel-aged stouts in the world, the product simply doesn\u2019t exist. Like anyone who seeks out a 23-year Pappy, no one is paying a straight cost per ounce \u2014 they\u2019re paying to ride that ride. And that\u2019s either something you care about, or you don\u2019t.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I read a lot of beer topics but I try to avoid forums especially around beer trading and valuation because, as Michael knows, there\u2019s a ton of variance in what the value of a beer is. Don\u2019t forget, there are \u00a0only a few thousand people trading beers and even less trading in the high-end beers like ones you\u2019d pay over $50 on MyBeerCellar for and even fewer that dabble in \u2018whales\u2019 and maybe less than 50 people who know anything about the ghost whale game and participate in it.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>My point is, if you\u2019re complaining about a $60 beer price that you\u2019ll eventually get to try at a \u00a0tasting, via a trade or a tap takeover, you\u2019re going to be fine and your issue is pretty much unique to you and a few hundred others. Some people can afford expensive beers and most don\u2019t bother or just don\u2019t know about them. The All Day IPA drinker doesn\u2019t trade six $20 beers away for a BCS Rare.\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"via Good Beer Hunting: $60 for a beer might not be in your budget. Anyone would be perfectly&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"apple_news_api_created_at":"2016-03-17T02:02:13Z","apple_news_api_id":"f952b2fb-bc8b-492d-980a-861c4787a76d","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2016-03-17T02:02:13Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAD\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/w==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/A-VKy-7yLSS2YCoYcR4enbQ","apple_news_cover_media_provider":"image","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_cover_video_id":0,"apple_news_cover_video_url":"","apple_news_cover_embedwebvideo_url":"","apple_news_is_hidden":"","apple_news_is_paid":"","apple_news_is_preview":"","apple_news_is_sponsored":"","apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":[],"apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"csco_singular_sidebar":"","csco_page_header_type":"","csco_custom_appearance":"","csco_disable_excerpt_posts_layout":false,"csco_page_load_nextpost":"","csco_post_video_location":[],"csco_post_video_location_hash":"","csco_post_video_url":"","csco_post_video_bg_start_time":0,"csco_post_video_bg_end_time":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[173],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-3074","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-beer-news","7":"cs-entry","8":"cs-video-wrap"},"apple_news_notices":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pb3IC4-NA","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1264,"url":"https:\/\/adamchandler.me\/blog\/2013\/01\/18\/beer-memberships-futures-csa-esque-societies-worth-it\/","url_meta":{"origin":3074,"position":0},"title":"\u2605 Beer Memberships, Futures, CSA-esque &#8220;Societies&#8221;. 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