{"id":1635,"date":"2013-08-06T13:26:45","date_gmt":"2013-08-06T17:26:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/adam-jackson.net\/beer\/?p=1635"},"modified":"2013-08-06T13:26:45","modified_gmt":"2013-08-06T17:26:45","slug":"2014-beer-budgeting-with-beer-clubs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/adamchandler.me\/blog\/2013\/08\/06\/2014-beer-budgeting-with-beer-clubs\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2605 2014 Beer Budgeting with Beer Clubs"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class='__iawmlf-post-loop-links' style='display:none;' data-iawmlf-post-links='[{&quot;id&quot;:9566,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.thebruery.com\\\/reservesociety&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20141006202837\\\/http:\\\/\\\/www.thebruery.com:80\\\/reservesociety\\\/&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-05 08:09:52&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-05 08:09:52&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:9567,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/membership.crookedstave.com&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20160511170209\\\/http:\\\/\\\/membership.crookedstave.com:80\\\/&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-05 08:09:52&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-05 08:09:52&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;}]'><\/div>\n<p>As I grow older, budgeting becomes more of a priority in my life. This is why beer clubs are attractive to me. When breweries decide to sell beer futures on upcoming batches, it&#8217;s good to remember that you&#8217;re investing in beer that hasn&#8217;t been brewed yet and sometimes the beer you expected doesn&#8217;t arrive on time or at all. Also, breweries with clubs aren&#8217;t always local so you have to factor in shipping as well. It&#8217;s time for me to renew my memberships at a few breweries and this form of thought process allows me to work through my options and see if I feel there&#8217;s a value in these clubs versus regular beer buying.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Let&#8217;s outline the spend of 2013 so far and I&#8217;ll try to figure in the estimated cost for the remainder of the year based on what I&#8217;ve done so far.<\/div>\n<div>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thebruery.com\/reservesociety\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Bruery Reserve Society<\/a> = $2,195 USD per year (est.)\n<ul>\n<li>$295 Membership Fee which gets you 1 beers delivered throughout the year<\/li>\n<li>I&#8217;ve spent $872.66 in Beer from January &#8211; August 1st<\/li>\n<li>This works out to about $124.66 per month in beer<\/li>\n<li>If I continue this trend, that&#8217;s roughly $1500 in beer to one brewery this year + the $295 sign up fee<\/li>\n<li>I&#8217;ve received 41 beers for the $872.66 spent so far (excluding the beers included in the membership) so each bottle costs an average of $21.25 per bottle<\/li>\n<li>Shipping for these beers has been $3.50 per beer sent from Southern California to me. I return the styrofoam shipper to my trustee at a cost of $2 per slot (filling a few slots with beers as a thank you)\u00a0I won&#8217;t calculate my &#8220;trustee gifts&#8221; because those don&#8217;t count but let&#8217;s call it $5 total cost to get these bottles back to me<\/li>\n<li>Shipping cost so far equals $235 and should be about $165 more for the remainder of the year if I stay on track and order 28 more bottles + the 5 bottles left in the membership.<\/li>\n<li>Therefore, Bruery should cost me roughly $2,195 for 2013<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/membership.crookedstave.com\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Crooked Stave Cellar Reserve<\/a> = $1,257.50 USD per year (est.)\n<ul>\n<li>$300 Membership Fee which gets you 20 beers throughout the year<\/li>\n<li>I&#8217;ve spent $419.05 from January to August<\/li>\n<li>Average monthly spend is $60<\/li>\n<li>2013&#8217;s estimated spend on CS beers is $720<\/li>\n<li>I&#8217;ve purchased 44 beers from CS for an average cost of $9.50 per beer<\/li>\n<li>Shipping is hard to calculate but it&#8217;s just under half the shipping cost of Bruery at 2.50 per beer for a total spend so far of $110<\/li>\n<li>Adding in the promised beers included in the membership and estimated purchases this year I&#8217;ll probably buy 75 beers from Crooked Stave this year + 20 that are included for a total of 95 beers<\/li>\n<li>At $2.50 shipping, that&#8217;s $237.50 estimated shipping<\/li>\n<li>$720 on beer + $237.50 on shipping + $300 upfront for a total CS spend of $1257.50<\/li>\n<li>While I&#8217;ll get a lot of bottles, CS beers are all 375ML and Bruery is 750ML but the cost seems pretty close to 50% of what Bruery costs so their $ amount is very similar for the amount of ounces you actually get<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Hill Farmstead Collected Works = $350 USD every half year ($700 a year?)\n<ul>\n<li>This program is done seasonally. A Winter session has not been announced but it is my understanding that CW will run a Summer and Winter program at $350 per session. This is not confirmed, only a guess.<\/li>\n<li>$350 for session 1 allowed for each member to receive 12 Beers + a hand made wooden box from Shaun&#8217;s brother + a ticket to Festival of Farmhouse Ales ($100 value)<\/li>\n<li>I placed the value of the box at $75 based on the prices of hand made woodcraft that I&#8217;ve seen in Vermont at shops. Laugh at me if you want but Vermont hand made furniture is very expensive.<\/li>\n<li>So this roughly puts the value of the beers at $175 or $14.50 per bottle which is the average price overall if you add up all of the bottles that are included.<\/li>\n<li>There is no shipping in this program since I pick up the beers in program<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In beer clubs this year, my total spend is expected to be $4152.50. There&#8217;s no denying that this is a LOT of money. So I&#8217;m breaking down the budget just a bit and I&#8217;m going to include some other 2013 spending estimates.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Shipping Estimate for beer trades in 2013: $1,750 ($250 less than in 2012 and this includes shipments from Bruery \/ Crooked Stave so obviously, I&#8217;m trading a lot less this year than last)<\/li>\n<li>Local beer purchases (Hill Farmstead, Lawson&#8217;s, Beer Co-Op and Alchemist): $2,000<\/li>\n<li>Trips to Belgium happen 1-2 times per year: $1,500 for beer + shipping each trip is around what I spend<\/li>\n<li>Online Beer orders (Gary&#8217;s in SF, Cascade Barrel House and other stores like Charleston Beer Exchange): $500<\/li>\n<li>Orders from Etre Gourmet and Belgium in a Box: So far, this has been $450. I don&#8217;t anticipate doing any more orders in 2013 especially if I have a Fall trip to Belgium.<\/li>\n<li>Festivals in 2013: $250 so far, maybe another $50 or so but festival season is mostly over.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Rough Estimate for 2013 Beer Spending: $10,652. (I didn&#8217;t add $1500 for the 2nd trip to Belgium because I&#8217;m not confirmed yet on that one)<\/p>\n<p>Well this is downright disappointing.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s take a break for a second and let me say that I don&#8217;t mind working this math out in public. The ridicule and jokes about my spending are hard to stomach and I&#8217;m not much a fan of being used as a mockery when it comes to these things but I feel like a lot of beer geeks spend money on beer carelessly without doing the math. It&#8217;s a big problem and I look at hauls of crazy rare whales and insane lambic and these guys posting 2-3 cases of KBS and BCBS and maxing out every Bruery Allocation and think that it&#8217;s insane and these guys are crazy but, taking a step back, I&#8217;m roughly in the same position. As long as you&#8217;re paying your bills and not getting into debt, this sort of spending is to your income and the kind of money you can afford. I don&#8217;t spend all winter on the ski slopes or put custom exhaust pipes on my car or have this insane home theatre setup. I mostly eat tuna &amp; ramen and PB&amp;J sammiches and all of my time and spare money goes to home brewing and other beer related activities. Therefore, I spend what I can afford.<\/p>\n<p>With that said, I&#8217;d like to shift my spending in 2014. This spending is not sustainable and while I traded less in 2013, the beer buying I did still remained pretty high. Some changes need to be made going forward. I mostly wrote this because a nice guy who reads my blog chatted with me at Ommegang last weekend while we were drinking some Crooked Stave beers and while he said it&#8217;s cool to see my hauls photos and &#8220;drool on the keyboard&#8221;, he can&#8217;t spend as much as I do on beer since he&#8217;s a student so was wondering if Crooked Stave was worth it for their Cellar Reserve. For the money spent, I thought it was. you don&#8217;t have to max out your allocations and their bottle sizes are great as a daily drinking beer. I drink a CS beer twice a week because I have so many, can drink it by myself and all of them have been solid, quality beers. It was his inquiry into spending that inspired me to work this out.<\/p>\n<p>=======<\/p>\n<p>Conclusions?<\/p>\n<p>Well, other than what is written above I do have some ideas for next year.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Stop maxing out Bruery allocations. The sours are usually too vinegar heavy compared to Lambic and, for the price per bottle + shipping, I can order a bunch of Gueuze from belgium and enjoy the beers much more.<\/li>\n<li>Bruery beers aren&#8217;t trade bait. I should stop treating them as such and only buy what I personally intend to drink. If I don&#8217;t plan on drinking what is in my cart, remove a few beers. I didn&#8217;t need 7 bottles of Bottleworks 12 or 6 bottles of Chocolate Rain.<\/li>\n<li>I&#8217;d like to continue maxing out Crooked Stave allocations. Chad&#8217;s beers this year have all been very good and I drink these more than any other brewery in the cellar.<\/li>\n<li>I&#8217;m going to start skipping more Hill Farmstead Bottle Releases. I didn&#8217;t need 8 bottles of Civil Dis 6 or 6 bottles of Madness 1. What usually ends up happening is I buy these, then they slowly go to friends that drop by my place, trading partners and friends and then I realize I basically gave away $200 in beer. For the ticks, Collected Works will ensure I get to review every beer Shaun releases and I&#8217;ll continue to visit the brewery once a month for growler fills and beers I&#8217;m sure that I&#8217;ll drink all of but more than 4 of each release is absurd and a waste of money not because the beers are not great, but because I need to cut back on spending.<\/li>\n<li>No more Belgian Beer orders online. I have some connections in Montreal now that are getting bottles for me of Lambic that I want and we meet every 3 months to swap cash for beer. This should keep me stocked and I can stop paying expensive prices.<\/li>\n<li>Less online beer orders. Cascade is a great brewery making nice beers but they&#8217;re fairly one dimensional and I&#8217;d say my average rating of them is 3.7. Rarely do they blow my mind so cutting back on Cascade beers would be a good idea.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In 2014, I&#8217;d like to reduce my beer spending to $7500. I&#8217;d like to say 5K but I think splitting it in half is going to be next to impossible and I should take baby steps. Also, keeping an Excel sheet with running totals is going to be my new plan. 10K works out to about $830 a month on beer. Reducing this to $625 per month in 2014 is an easy enough goal. I&#8217;ll keep a tally of shipping, beer orders and trades and keep the figure at around $600. per month and if I go over, reduce spending the next month to even things out.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t recommend all beer geeks do this but I really enjoyed the exercise. Actually, I&#8217;m betting most beer geeks reading this blog don&#8217;t have to do this exercise because most of you are good with money and keep this under control. I&#8217;m not proud of the money spend in 2013. Beer is great but not worth 10K so I do need to make some changes to keep things in check.<\/p>\n<p>I always appreciate meeting people in person at beer festivals who read this blog. Nothing posted here is a masterpiece but it is nice for me to document this journey in beer geekery and use long form to keep the habit in check. Thanks for reading.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"As I grow older, budgeting becomes more of a priority in my life. 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